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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Sunday, April 19 2009 @ 06:56 PM CDT I heard the new alderwoman was having her own swearing in Monday afternoon at a special ceremony, a first to my belief. In the past the aldermen were always sworn in at the end of a Common Council meeting. Why the change? Any costs to taxpayers? City employees involved on taxpayer time?
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
Authored by: Anonymous on
Sunday, April 19 2009 @ 10:45 PM CDT Dale, Why is it hard to determine whose property the trees were on? Don't we have arial photographs of the road and property before the sewer line was put in?
It seems that a simple overlay of the County map would take care of the dispute. We also should have the certified survey maps that had to have been used when the sewer contractor did his excavation. He needed to know where the right of way ended before he started to dig. Someone is wrong in this dispute, but I think the answer is quite easy. Either the survey maps and photos show the trees were on private property, or they show that they were in the public right of way.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Monday, April 20 2009 @ 01:21 AM CDT I do not believe that the aerial photos will be accurate enough for a legal dispute. The properties in question may not have recent CSMs because they are not required for the sewer project as the work was to be done in the right of way. I am not even sure that a CSM would mark the trees, It may only mark existing structures and lot lines. When the project was started a surveyor marked the lot lines and states his belief the tress were in the right of way. The property owners however believe the construction company went past the right of way and removed the trees that were on their private property .
We can see where the lot lines are with a survey, but now that the trees are gone, it is difficult to prove exactly where they were. We can see if the contractor went past the right of way, but that does not prove where the trees were.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Monday, April 20 2009 @ 10:31 AM CDT Dale,
Regarding the arial photos. I am sure that you can use the arial photos on the County website to determine where the trees were. The photos are excellent and they also have a very accurate measuring tool. There may not be a history of this tool being used in court, but that doesn't mean that it is not accurate. Addionaly, isn't it up to each judge to decide what he/she will accept, and I don't think the counsil is bound by what a judge hasn't decided on. I doubt it has been to an appeals court and thrown out. I have used it to determine the width of wooded sections of my own land. The acccuracy can be proven by using the tool to measure a know distance, which i have done and it can be very accurate, especaily after first zooming in. I measured the distance from my house to my barn within 2-4 inches on a distance of 100 ft. Might have been more accurate if i was better with a mouse. Also, it is my experience that contractors in general usually go to far in removing anything, so from experieince, i would be leaning toward the home owners, who also likely knew where there trees were. I'd be happy to show you the site if you like, but then you are the guru. Rick Carr
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Wednesday, April 22 2009 @ 05:29 PM CDT Rick, My concern over the accuracy of the areal photos is not the quality of the photo, but how well the photos are aligned to the survey boundaries for the property lines and rights of way. If that photo is mis-aligned by a couple of feet, something could show in the right of way when it really is not. And visa versa.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 09:16 AM CDT Dale, there is a flaw in the argument, the road also shows up in the photo and the right of way is measrured from the center of the highway. all you need to do is look at the photo, measure the distance from the center of the highway to the tree, very simple. AND, the accuracy can easily be tested by comparing it to a known distance, for instance an existing tree on the same property. Measure on the photo to the existing tree, that was not removed. then take a mearsurement with a tape measure of the same thing. Then take a measure ment on the photo from the center line to the missing trees that are in dispute, i'll be happy to do it for you if you would like.
Rick
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
Authored by: dale on
Monday, April 20 2009 @ 01:11 AM CDT I do not have all the details, but I believe Cheri is looking to have a long time friend, you is a judge, perform the ceremony. I do not believe there is any cost to the tax payer.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
Authored by: Anonymous on
Tuesday, April 21 2009 @ 10:34 AM CDT Clerk time at ceremony during work hours equates to some cost to taxpayer.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Monday, April 20 2009 @ 10:44 AM CDT Dale,
Regarding the trees, before we pay for a certified survey, form a subcommittee, involve the lawyers, drag the engineers out there, and waste time at the next 7 council meetings, why don't we just split the cost of a few trees with the contractor and have the DPW plant them. The owner can contribute by watering the things. Even if the city has to eat the costs of the new trees, it will only be a few hundred bucks. They are TREES for Christ's sake. Why even bother dealing with this at the meeting? Or tell the owners to take the money that they usually pay to have their septic tank pumped and put it towards some nice maples if they don't like the trees you'll buy them. Also Dale, how do you stand on the mandatory sick leave ordinance? Duke LaCrosse, Pewaukee Arbor Society
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Wednesday, April 22 2009 @ 11:46 AM CDT Duke, are you trying to establish credibility here or something? You mock all of us time and time again and then you think you can just get out your soap box, take one step up and speak or that you can climb into your pulpit and preach to us below you? C'mon. Go float down a river.
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Wednesday, April 22 2009 @ 02:29 PM CDT Dear "I Hide Behind the Walls of Dale's Virtual Living Room (IHBWDVLR)",
Although, Duke may come off as mocking, he makes a valid point. He is a concerned citizen who has just as much right to voice his opinion(no matter how whacky it can be) as you do! Furthermore, Mr. IHBWDVLR, we wouldn't know your opinion from your last one. Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged. Do you have no soul? It's for the kids! Duke, You go ahead and float down that river! It's for a great cause. Do it for the kids. Don't let Mr. IHBWDVLR's judgement stop you!
See You on the River,
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April 20th Common Council Meeting
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Wednesday, April 22 2009 @ 05:43 PM CDT Duke, You are right, they are just trees. However, the homeowners my have a different opinion of new saplings being substituted for 20+ year old mature trees. Yes, saplings will grow into mature trees, but they are not a direct substitute. Now the cost to replace mature trees might just be a little more than just a couple of hundred dollars as you suggest. Would it be possible to split the cost with the contractor who took the trees down? Maybe. However, if that contractor believes they committed no error in the removal of the trees, how willing are they going to be to pay a portion of the cost. Be honest, if you felt you did nothing wrong, how likely are you going to be to say, "sure, here's money to make something right that I did not make wrong."
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Mandatory Sick Leave
Authored by: dale on
Wednesday, April 22 2009 @ 05:57 PM CDT What do I think of the Mandatory sick leave ordinance? I think that sick leave is a benefit that should be determined by an agreement between an employer and the employee. It could be a standard policy, union contract or some other form of agreement. I do not feel that any government body should mandate a specific level of benefits for employees. The Milwaukee ordinance goes even further by applying the mandate to companies that may not be based within the City limits but do perform work within the City boundaries. I also believe that a government body should not enact legislation for the specific purpose of preventing the citizens from enacting direct legislation. It is my understanding, that is what some municipalities have done.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 09:27 AM CDT I agree with you on this Dale. A mandatory sick leave ordinace is a sure way to chase empolyers away, and to erode the tax base. I fullly support a pre=emptive ordinace to prevent a mandatory sick leave ordinace. It would tell employers that we will not be interfering with their contracts with their employees.
Rick Carr By the way, Duke, pretty funny that you of all anonomous people should jump on someone else for not identifying themself. You too Jake Sparrow, if you are even different people.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 11:02 AM CDT A quote from you Dale
"I also believe that a government body should not enact legislation for the specific purpose of preventing the citizens from enacting direct legislation. It is my understanding, that is what some municipalities have done." I realize you are refering to the Sick leave ordinances here, but have you forgotten that Pewaukee was one of the first communities in the State to take away the citizen's rights to Direct Legislation when they enacted the $10M spending cap? Even though its been reduced, its still on the books. I do agree with you that we should not enact an ordinance about sick leave. It's a business owner's call. If the employees want sick leave, then they need to negotiate with their employer. Are you going to start a new thread about the article in the LCR on April23? It shows that the savings from a merger were overstated by $1.6 MILLION. There was a lot of opposition to the merger before, now I think you can kiss a merger goodbye. While it may have been an error on the part of our administrators, it is inexcusable. It makes one question every statement that has been made concerning the true savings either community would realize.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 11:07 AM CDT pen names are pen names regardless of what they are, rick carr... if that is your real name. funny you should mention floating down a river to Duke. do you not read the tales of Huck Finn since the author uses the fake name Mark Twain?
Maxwell Powers, the knowledge is free
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 11:41 AM CDT Rich,
Who is Jake Sparrow?
Sincerely,
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Friday, April 24 2009 @ 09:27 AM CDT Jake Sparrow is a pen name, you know, Mark Twain and all that, and yet anonymous. Who is Rich?
Rick Carr
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 08:43 PM CDT Seems to me you are saying yes & no. Your last paragraph seems to say "not in favor" of pre-emptive ordinance. Please clarify which one you support - ordinance blocking a referendum verses no ordinance which opens opportunity for citizen referendum to force mandatory sick days?
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, April 23 2009 @ 10:41 PM CDT When people talk about Direct Legislation they don't seem to know how much work it is to achieve it. It is not simply a matter of having a few people sign a petition. I believe the minimum number of signatures is 25% of the people who voted in the last election held for governor. In the city of Pewaukee that's almost 1,000 people. Then you need a cushion of at least 10% to account for challenged signatures. That ups the total to 1,100. Once the signatures are verified the issue must either go to referendum, or be adopted by the local government. The legislation, if passed, cannot be changed or amended for two years.
In a community like Pewaukee, dominated by white collar workers, who probably already get sick leave with pay, who is going to spearhead this legislation? There are very few issues out there which have led citizens to initiate Direct Legislation, this probably is not one that the citizen's of Pewaukee would initiate. It's too much work for too little reward. Milwaukee was targeted by the national group, Nine to Five, due to it's ethnic diversity, and high percentage of low income, unskilled workforce. They recruited local support. This idea was not the brainchild of someone who lives on 5th and Walnut. They also timed it to coincide with a Presidential Election. Milwaukee has a record for very high liberal voter turnout in national elections. The timing, demographics and economy all played a role in this legislation being adopted in Milwaukee. Madison may become Nine to Five's next conquest. In my opinion, they won't attempt to organize in relatively affluent, conservative suburbs, because they have a high risk of failure. That would be bad for their image, and discredit their agenda.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
Authored by: dale on
Friday, April 24 2009 @ 05:59 AM CDT Thanks for the excellent explanation.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Friday, April 24 2009 @ 05:46 AM CDT Actually, I am saying No and No. No I do not believe that government should dictate sick leave benefits for employees. No I do not believe that government should enact legislation in order to block direct legislation.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
Authored by: Anonymous on
Friday, April 24 2009 @ 11:58 AM CDT Thanks. Appreciate both the referendum summary and your position Dale.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Saturday, April 25 2009 @ 05:07 PM CDT Dale,
We missed you today. Too bad you couldn't come out and support the kids. Maybe next year. Do you think this will effect your chances for re- election??? Jack Sparrow, Supporter, Finisher, Political Icon.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Wednesday, May 06 2009 @ 09:17 AM CDT Dale,
Are you out of the office already for summer-break. I can only pray that you have not been affected by the Swine Flu pandemic... Along those lines, what has Pewaukee done to ensure that we stay Swine Flu free since 1840? Maxwell Powers, Purell / N95 facemask Dealer
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Mandatory Sick Leave
Authored by: dale on
Thursday, May 07 2009 @ 05:44 AM CDT Nothing so dramatic as the H1N1 Influenza. Nothing so great as a summer break. While I did get a short vacation, most of my time is devoted to Work, Family and Home. Unfortunately, that is in the order of the amount of time spent on each.
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Mandatory Sick Leave
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Thursday, June 04 2009 @ 08:59 AM CDT In addition to the Mayor, who else is up for re-election next year?
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April 2010 Election
Authored by: dale on
Saturday, June 06 2009 @ 07:45 AM CDT
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